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ZORRO
05-18-2005, 06:45 AM
Lots of action nation wide today but I can't do them all. Have Doctor appointments at the hospital this morning.


Belmont

1st 1

2nd 6
(This is dirt so I can't pass him for sure)

6th 1-6

9th 4-5
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Churchill

4th 1-4-5-6 (should get a longshot bet here)

9th 1-5
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Hollywood

2nd 1-3

5th 2-5-6

7th 2-4
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If there is time when I get back I will do more tracks.

bpd67
05-18-2005, 08:06 AM
Hope things go well at the doctor, zorro.

ZORRO
05-18-2005, 08:29 AM
Here are some more bets. I'm not leaving till 10am. I'm in no great hurry to see these guys today.

Arlington

4th 3-4
6th 7
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Golden Gate Fields
4th 3-7
7th 1-4-7
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Pimlico (Have done very well here)

3rd 4-8

6th 2-8

8th 2-7
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Thanks 67 :)

Know how I take this bullshit today? Being I'm going down to the Bronx, I will make sure that after meeting with the Docs...I go get some White Castle on Arlington Ave.
I love White Castle and we don't have any in Westchester.

If I'm back early I'll be back on as I follow tote boards. Many of my friends will be betting these races today.

:injured:

BigAl
05-18-2005, 09:45 AM
I will be testing the time before post closings at 2 sites today.

I'll keep you 'posted'. HAHA

Hope you get well.

Hal01
05-18-2005, 10:51 AM
I know Big Z is at the Doctor's office, but did he do the Racing Form today or are these horses a result of the 1st part of his system?

I have an open day and would like to head to my OTB.

Anyone?

Thanks, Hal

bpd67
05-18-2005, 11:57 AM
I believe these make it through the 1st part. He's been able to pick on grass without doing the entire form. He's posting the last few days and doing pretty well without doing the entire form.

ZORRO
05-18-2005, 01:28 PM
Originally posted by bpd67
I believe these make it through the 1st part. He's been able to pick on grass without doing the entire form. He's posting the last few days and doing pretty well without doing the entire form.


The statement above is true!
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I just got back..... its 2:15
I go to the site and the 3rd isn't up at Pimlico, but I see the second race was won by Treasure song who paid 14:60.
I look at my sheet, he MADE PART 1,
NOW......I go to the chart on the race results site and look at the chart. The fuck PASSED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

See what I mean? If I had done the paper HE IS A WINNER!
That doesn't bother me, I always win, BUT I HAVE TO GET THIS WINNER RIGHT BEFORE MY GRASS RACES START,EH???

I now look at the 2nd at Belmont where I did bet the 6 horse 50-50 at 6F on dirt. THE RAT BASTARD FINISHED SECOND. THE FAVORITE BEAT ME. But....the 6 Passed so I don't give a shit.


Do you believe these Doctors were ready to name a date to cut the tumor out of my right lung?







My friends, my IQ is higher than theirs, and I will never survive an operation of that magnitude. Not one chance in a million.
I turned them down. My wife and sister readily agreed.
Friday, another fucking test.This one is 3 hours. I have to get a bone cat scan.
To make sure this bitch didn't go into my bones.

We soon will start to Zap this bitch and that is as far as I will go. I will meet with the tumor Specialist at the end of the month. If it works....fine....doesn't work....thats also fine.

No operation for me.
What will be will be.

BigAl
05-18-2005, 01:58 PM
I wish you the best.

BigAl
05-18-2005, 02:12 PM
At both Pinnacle and youbet.com, I can bet right up til the horses start entering the gate. Even while watching the tracks live video which says 0 minutes to post, they will go through most of the time as long as the horses are not loading. Once they start loading, it's done.

ZORRO
05-18-2005, 02:24 PM
Originally posted by BigAl
At both Pinnacle and youbet.com, I can bet right up til the horses start entering the gate. Even while watching the tracks live video which says 0 minutes to post, they will go through most of the time as long as the horses are not loading. Once they start loading, it's done.


I have to say I am shocked to hear that. If that is the case, I will do many more racing forms. EVERYBODY has told me it can't be done.
I hope you're right.

Funny, but I have gone to that site many times to check out basketball lines. They always give you the line of 4 sites.


If I had the money "SECOND" HAS COST ME OVER THE YEARS.........I WOULD HAVE ANOTHER 5 MILLION IN THE BANK.

Ain't shit you can do about it.

5-1 shots are 0 for 3 today and in the 4th at Churchill the 6 horse got second at a 13:60 pay-off.

200 to win just cost me a return of 1,200 bucks CLEAN!

Of course one of my other horses beat me. I didn't even look to see what te exacta paid. Not much with the favorite on top.

bpd67
05-18-2005, 02:31 PM
Hopefully the 5-1's get hot soon, I'm on my way to the OTB in a few minutes.

Zorro, how was White Castle, did you chomp down a few sliders?

BigAl
05-18-2005, 02:57 PM
At most sportsbooks, you do get looked out real early. Bogod, Wagermall, Canbet, but the 2 I mentioned are always good. Pinnacle just in the last month has gotten way better.

I can't count the number of times the tote says 0 yet I slip a bet in.

Yes, that Churchill race was painful.

Let's go get them.

ZORRO
05-18-2005, 03:02 PM
I had 4 burgers and a mashed with a small coke.
At one time I would have 10 to 12.

Screw the doctors...give me those White Castles baby!!!!

We hit the last 3 races and each horse returned a great price of..........SHIT!!!!!

Favorite day today or....... the horses are paying 100 bucks.
I have never hit a horse in this system for over a 40 buck price.
Reason is even when my horses are longshots, 5-1 on up, THEY FIGURE TO WIN.

You see, I SAY AGAIN, WITH 7 TRACKS YOU CAN'T STOP ME.
With much less.....you sit and wait for the big winner to come in.

BigAl
05-18-2005, 03:34 PM
on a regular basis. I love those! They are shit though if you buy them from the freezer.

OK Zorro, at Pimlico, I waited until the tote at youbet, which is live, went to 0. I then watched live video for 2 more minutes. When the live video said 1 minute to post, I enter in the bets. Went through just fine.

ZORRO
05-18-2005, 05:44 PM
0 for 5 so far with 5-1 on up
today. Now for what I consider a very important part of what I do.

When I was doing 7 tracks every day, I would keep results at EACH INDIVIDUAL TRACK. WHY? Because I knew that I would never lose. I knew that I would hit 17 to 19 percent of longshots for a return of from 17 bucks to 19 bucks on average price.
Soooo when I saw that at one track I was lets say 0 for 10, I would now bet 200 on each horse to win instead of 100. BUT...heres the big thing....I DON'T BELIEVE IN "LAW OF AVERAGE" BULLSHIT SO I WOULD SET THE FIGURE AT 200 ON THE NEXT 10 HORSES THAT MAKE THE ODDS AT THAT TRACK.

So,if you have been betting lets say 20 to win the last few days.....YOU NOW BET 40 TO WIN ON ALL HORSES WHO MAKE THE 5-1 ON UP.........FOR THE NEXT TEN BETS.

Again, If a guy doesn't have the money to back him, doesn't have the money to now go 40 to win on the next ten......he really shouldn't be doing this. You can't win without money.

If you noticed what is THE NORM for a NY track, in the 9th at Belmont my horse was 6-1, he went down to 5-1, and get this, as the race is running he is 9-2 on the screen.
He wins the race and PAYS, are you ready???, 9:50
Thats 7-2. What scam artists we have here in ole York. Every crook in the USA is right here.











What cheating rat bastards we have here in NY. My other horse gets beat out of second by, OF COURSE, THE FUCKING FAVORITE, SO GOODBYE EXACTA IF YOU BET IT.

Big Al,
The people must have really done a job because the "on line" betting was the pits.

That does make what I do very easy, but here is the problem.
I don't bet what we would call "small money".

I don't believe anybody who bets big money would want the figures on a web site showing his legal wagers.

Lets say you win 10 grand one week, and the following week another 10 grand.
What IDIOT would show he won 20 grand in two weeks on an internet betting site???

Ever hear of the IRS?

I would say that I'm too old fashioned to ever change.

You won't believe this but I have every card in the book....YET...I HAVE NEVER CHARGED ANYTHING ON THE NET.
Don't believe in it.

Another thing, AL, I think you would have to play there for at least 3 months to really make a judgement on how good they are.

If you are betting lets say 20 to 40 a race, and they are really organized, you have a great deal going with them.

Well, lets go back to see what the hell is going on on the coast.

ZORRO
05-18-2005, 05:58 PM
I won the 5th at Hollywood but he paid only 9:20.
My other horse got the second. It was a 2-5 finish.
Can't get a damn price today.
5 WINNERS PAYING SHIT
9:50
9:20
4:60
4:60
5:20

and 7 FUCKING SECONDS TODAY.
SEVEN HORSES SECOND.

That's what happens when you don't do 7 tracks in one day.

5 winners 7 seconds and I'm losing money today.
I am not happy.

I am now too tired. Will skip the last two races.

:injured:

BigAl
05-18-2005, 05:59 PM
but I have been spanked way worse than this.

Pinnacle is offshore, they do not report to anyone so you are safe there. In an OTB place, they HAVE to report your big wins.

Let's go win a couple baby!

BigAl
05-18-2005, 06:03 PM
What the Hell!

Wondering something though.

Can't remember which race earlier, but it was run on dirt. (Not the one you mentioned.)

If it's on dirt, do we get out if you did not do the form?

Thanks for everything Zorro.

Amazing with what's going on in your life that you would be doing this.

Testimony to how sick us Gamblers are!!!!

BigAl
05-18-2005, 06:09 PM
Can he win?

BigAl
05-18-2005, 06:17 PM
Race is over, 2 minutes later I am still waiting for the "Rat Bastards" to come in.

Looked good for a bit. One of your horses did win.

ZORRO
05-19-2005, 07:23 AM
Originally posted by BigAl
Can he win?


If you are not aware of this I will repeat it. If you look at my post on the day I did do the racing form and posted all the bets for 7 tracks on this site you will notice what I stated VIGOROUSLY.

When I do a paper "ON DIRT" RACES ONLY......AND THERE IS JUST 1 HORSE WHO MAKES IT AS A PASSER IN THE RACE.....JUST ONE HORSE LISTED AS A BET IN THE RACE.....


YOU CAN BET HIM AT ANY ODDS AND YOU WILL WIN BIG MONEY EVERY SINGLE DAY.

If you bring up that thread you will see on that day where there was ONE PASSER IN A RACE.....I KILLED THEM AND YOU WON ABOUT 5 GRAND BETTING EACH HORSE.

LOOK IT UP!