How Bad is the Big East?

[BigdaddyQH]

West Virginia is 2-0 against FBS Schools. They beat Maryland and Marshall, barely. The rest of the Big East is 2-10 aainst FBS Schools. That could easily grow to 2-13 after this week. Just how bad is this Conference? Oneof those two wins was Rutgers edgin Florida INternational 19-14. The other was Syracuses win at Akron. This conference is ranked 8th overall in the FBS, behind BOTH the MWC (#5) and WAC (#7). Should this pathetic conference lose their automatic BCS Bid?

[Louie]

Thank You BDQ. I have ben saying this for years on here and everyone has busted my balls about it. I continue to make my case that the Big East should be considered a mid-major conference. I think the Mountain West conference is just as intimidating as the pathetic Big East. Anyone of these teams would be bottom feeders in any other other BCS conference.

[donkeypunch]

Agree, but if you only have 1 bid to give to the Big East, WAC, or the Mountain West; who do you give it to? I think it's unfair to give it to one of these conferences because they are all pretty much the same. Part of the reason why the system sucks.

[DrewRyan]

It's a crap year for the Big East, but look how many friggin' teams totally flipped over. If you want to call BJ Daniels a "new quarterback," virtually the entire conference has new starting QBs this year...

UConn lost its QB and its top rusher from last year
UPitt lost pretty much everything on offense of any note save Dion Lewis
Rutgers has watched its whole team from its "glory days" graduate
USF lost Grothe for the year last year and has gone through a plethora of backs and defensive linemen
Syracuse lost its top point guard/quarterback from a year ago
WVU kept a lot, but has a new quarterback
Cincy not only lost Gilyard and Pike from last year, but Pead and Hazelton to injury this year and watched its HC bolt for ND
Louisville is trying to get used to a new offensive system with a new head coach and has to recover from the dumbass Kragthorpe years, something that made take 4-5 years.


Four years ago, this was one of the BEST conferences in America. It's all cyclical. Give it a couple years and these kiddies that we're talking about now in the Big East will be juniors and seniors and the Big East will be back on the map.

[badfish2]

Good post Drew..I totally agree...Usually its the Pac-10 that gets the bashing

[DrewRyan]

Agree, but if you only have 1 bid to give to the Big East, WAC, or the Mountain West; who do you give it to? I think it's unfair to give it to one of these conferences because they are all pretty much the same. Part of the reason why the system sucks.


Actually, this post isn't right really. How many straight years has the best team from the WAC or the MWC gotten an automatic berth to the BCS? They HAVE TO the way that the system is set up. That's why we know that, even if Boise State, TCU, Utah, Nevada, and all of the mid-majors end up losing one game, that Boise State is going to end up in the BCS unless TCU hops it. There HAS to be one mid-major, and there's no way that the humans are going to punish a one loss BSU or TCU team to the point that they aren't in the Top 12 with an 11-1 record, which would guarantee them a berth.


Truth be told, what you should do now with everybody moving around is just let BOTH the WAC and MWC become power conferences, giving you eight bids in total. Rank the teams by using the BCS polls 1-8, take the next 4 best teams in the country per rankings regardless of conference affiliation (or if you want, the next 8 teams), and go have a friggin' playoff. Punish BYU and Notre Dame for being independent, making them go on the road for the playoffs, and tell everybody in the Sun Belt, C-USA, and MAC to go eff off. Those conferences are so far behind everybody else right now it isn't even funny anyway. If one of them is that good, they'll be ranked in the Top 8 at the end of the year one way or the other, which would guarantee them entry into the playoff anyway.


If you do 12 teams, it still makes the regular season matter (unlike in college basketball where it doesn't mean a damn thing) because if you're ranked in the Top 4, you get a bye and in the next four, you get a home game. Put your semifinals and finals in neutral sites so no one can bitch about having to go on the road for a game against another team that probably has the same record.


I'm smart enough to come up with a playoff structure, yet these big wigs in the NCAAs aren't... But my way would end this crap of which conference is better. Win your out of conference games, and stick up for your conference by playing teams from other good conferences and don't bring in Northeast Southwestern Dipcrap University for your home opener. Then go out in the playoff and beat the team that you get matched up with. Plain and simple.


By the way, I'm actually a fan of the BCS and I think it's served its purpose since coming into existence. We continuously get the two best teams on the field each and every year. The one year it failed and failed miserably was the year that Utah beat Alabama in the Sugar Bowl. An undefeated Utah team, the only undefeated team in the country, that beat everyone on its schedule pretty badly and HOUSED Alabama, the team that was the last major conference team in the country that went undefeated, deserved a share of the national championship.

And no, I don't find a problem with a split championship either...

[DrewRyan]

And just one more note about this and then I'll get off my high horse (geez, this has gotten my blood boiling, eh?)...

I LOVE what the humans are doing this year with teams that are scheduling big games and losing them. Miami dropped three spots for losing to Ohio State. Virginia Tech only dropped I think it was four spots for losing to Boise (and was CRIPPLED for losing to James Madison). The only team that really got screwed was Iowa. The Hawkeyes deserved to stay in the Top 15 but had to fall under Arizona.

Schedule good teams, and you don't get punished that much. If you're going to schedule a dipcrap schedule, you'd better win those games and win them by a ton, because the pollsters just don't care.