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BuckeyeNut
03-07-2012, 08:44 AM
So where does he go?
Yes I know I am a 49ers homer, but I really do think that would be the best fit to win right now. Now before you Louie and some of you others chime in, Let me tell you my opinions.
I am still not sold on Alex Smith. Yes I know he had a great season last year, but all I can say is one-year wonder. Before last season he didnt do anything for the niners. Now all these NFL teams have tape on what he did last year and know how to stop. I am very concerned for the 49ers next season. This league has really became a Quarterback driven league. It is almost necessary to have a QB that throws for 300+ yards a game. Defense cant do it all. Smith is not this kind of QB. I know you are gonna say, "But he wins the games." Yes, he did last year. What about the years before that. I was never high on this guy ever since he came out of college. He was a system QB at Utah under Urban Meyer. I feel the niners are making a mistake saying they are gonna resign him.
Now for Peyton Manning, do I need to explain why? The guy can flat out play. No other QB in history can read a defense like this guy. With him on the field, you have a second Offensive Coordinator on your team. He will make everyone else around him so much better. Even Frank Gore. Crabtree will get better, along with Morgan, Williams, Ginn, and the rest of the WR's. Look how Manning utilized Dallas Clark in Indy. Could you imagine Vernon Davis' numbers with him at QB.
I know deep down inside this is not gonna happen. I just wanted to express my opinions and say Alex Smith out and Peyton Manning in.
Now feel free to stick up for Smith. Lol. Talk to you all later.
bigwinnner8
03-07-2012, 10:13 AM
I think Louie is going to disagree with you on this one. Personally, I think he takes his talents to South Beach.
dale.price26
03-07-2012, 11:15 AM
Yep miami wild cat plays
khan_joel
03-07-2012, 11:21 AM
Ship him to new York it's a big upgrade from Sanchez!!
BuckeyeNut
03-07-2012, 01:41 PM
Oh trust me, I know Louie is gonna disagree with me. He likes Alex Smith. I on the other hand have not been a big fan. I just wanted to express my opinions is all.
Louie
03-07-2012, 03:07 PM
Alex Smith will get better working under the same system. That's all I have to say. This is the first time in his career that he will have the same system to work under. I really don't know how you can watch him all season and think that he can't do what he did (and more) next season. He's just starting to become a quarterback.
BuckeyeNut
03-07-2012, 09:14 PM
I am just worried other teams will catch on to what he is doing. He is not multi dimensional. Not gonna beat ya in the air. We need to do that. Sorry, but I am not sold on him yet. If he does it again this next season then I might think different. We will see I guess. I know we are not gonna get Manning. Just the thought makes me excited about what could be.
bigwinnner8
03-08-2012, 10:57 AM
On SportsCenter this morning they asked Mortenson if Cleveland was a possible landing place for Peyton. He said, "Peyton has a choice, right?" Made me laugh.
dale.price26
03-08-2012, 11:56 AM
Broncos are trying to get manning are you kidding me? I am a huge broncos fan and im just fine with what we got. We dont need manning. If they get him we will not make anything this year. Not saying hes a bad qb but then the team will have to adapt to his ways. Not only that he will be like bret farve wants everything his way. I think my team is at its best right now the only thing we need is a defenseive line man and a wide reciever not a freaking QB!!! I hope they dont get him it wont be good. Any thoughts?
Bigben
03-09-2012, 09:47 AM
ill take a shot here i say he goes arizona or miami warm places
BuckeyeNut
03-09-2012, 10:20 AM
A lot of analysts are talking about Houston a lot now. It would make some sense. Its a dome, warm weather, and he would play Indy twice a year. Never know I guess.
BuckeyeNut
03-11-2012, 08:49 PM
I think they do need a QB. Tebow is not the answer in Denver. Although, I don't see Manning going there. Prob either Miami, Arizona, or Houston. As much as I would like to see him in San Fran, it's not gonna happen either.
bpd67
03-11-2012, 09:31 PM
Houston? Why would Houston need him?
bigwinnner8
03-11-2012, 11:46 PM
I combined the Peyton Manning threads here.
aakjsf
03-12-2012, 09:27 AM
looks like denver, ariz are the front runners now
dale.price26
03-12-2012, 09:36 AM
Yep they want to trade tebow to get him this is crazy maybe my team will do better this year
BuckeyeNut
03-16-2012, 09:25 PM
Manning worked out for the niners today. I guess talks have stalled with Alex Smith.
BigWinDaddy
03-16-2012, 09:26 PM
Manning worked out for the niners today. I guess talks have stalled with Alex Smith.
Wow! Wasn't aware of this...I actually don't like it. I'd rather keep Smith.
Louie
03-16-2012, 11:39 PM
San Francisco 49ers worked out Peyton Manning this week, sources say - ESPN (http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/7696945/san-francisco-49ers-worked-peyton-manning-week-sources-say)
BigWinDaddy
03-16-2012, 11:49 PM
Spoke with my good friend who works for the Niners this evening. Manning worked out with the Niners earlier in the week and had his physical today. The Niners apparently have made an offer to Manning and if he doesn't accept, then they will go with Smith. A fact I didn't know, Manning's agent is also Smith's agent....sounds like a sticky situation to me!
Its down to the final 3. Manning is choosing between the Niners, Denver and Tennessee.
Louie
03-16-2012, 11:55 PM
Manning worked out for the niners today. I guess talks have stalled with Alex Smith.I think Alex might be asking for more then they are willing to pay him....
I am not going to be upset if we sign Manning, but I am going to be wondering what could have been with Alex (especially if Manning doesn't stay healthy). It's a big risk. He's 36 years old and has had multiple surgeries. Alex isn't even 29 and is entering his best years...
BN...What do you mean when you say "Teams will catch on the what is he doing". It's not like he has some secret they haven't discovered. He makes good decisions and doesn't turn the ball over and has the ability to make big throws. He's also athletic and has more mobility then Manning. He's also very bright and will see new things in the same system.
-Manning is great because he's a schemer and a hard worker with a cannon arm. He can spread the ball around and throw darts from the pocket. With our defense giving him many opportunities, this 49er team will Manning makes me salivate.
-Alex is special and capable of winning in this league because he is smart, doesn't turn the ball over, uses his legs to improvise, and makes the occasional big play when asked. 13-3 this year deserves attention and you better believe someone else will want him if we sign manning.
Either way, I am looking forward to next season (especially with all 11 defensive starters back....Manning would obviously have me counting the days to watch him in Red and Gold.
BigWinDaddy
03-17-2012, 12:00 AM
Well said, Louie. I truly would love to see Smith stick around. However, the allstar receiving cast that the Niners are putting together may warrant a "cannon arm". The big question is how the hell does Manning fit into our West Coast offense???
Louie
03-17-2012, 12:03 AM
The big question is how the hell does Manning fit into our West Coast offense???I am sure Harbaugh and Manning together will have plenty of ideas to make the offense work LOL...
The 49ers offense last year wasn't a true West Coast offense. It was more of a hybrid offense where they mixed up the plays and used the pass and the run when it suited them.
Louie
03-17-2012, 12:12 AM
I am also starting to wonder if the 49ers signed Moss to entice manning....
Louie
03-17-2012, 12:21 AM
Peyton Manning should like 49ers' approach (http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2012/03/16/SPON1NM6T4.DTL)
Louie
03-17-2012, 12:27 AM
Here's what this will look like....
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BuckeyeNut
03-17-2012, 07:53 AM
I am just going by what I had seen in the past with Smith is all I was getting at Louie. You could be right, he might be on the verge of becoming a good QB in the league. But with the opportunity to have Manning under center makes me salivate also. Just watching him on TV the way he directs an offense and reads exactly what the defense is doing is exciting. It's gonna be interesting.
Louie
03-17-2012, 06:02 PM
I think Alex might be asking for more then they are willing to pay him....NFL.com news: 49ers' Smith reportedly considering letting go of agent Condon (http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d827abb4b/article/49ers-smith-reportedly-considering-letting-go-of-agent-condon)
Like I said...It's almost like Alex's agent was using him to drive up the market price for manning. The 49ers figured if Alex's agent isn't going to be reasonable, they might as well look into Manning.
Louie
03-17-2012, 06:13 PM
I tend to agree with this in a way:
Purdy: 49ers, fans need to be careful in their pursuit of Peyton Manning - San Jose Mercury News (http://www.mercurynews.com/mark-purdy/ci_20190445)
Louie
03-18-2012, 06:39 AM
John McClain Tweet
@McClain_on_NFL: Some of those who have pursued Manning the hardest believe he's headed to San Francisco. If so, congrats to the 49ers
Louie
03-18-2012, 06:42 AM
Thaisport from San Francisco wants my take on the Peyton Manning news regarding the San Francisco 49ers. He thinks this is a "win-win" situation because Manning would deliver an NFC West title to the 49ers, Manning would make every offensive player better and the team knows Alex Smith will still be there as a fallback.
"A solid core of offensive players around a decent QB can make him look good," Thaisport writes. "A great QB around a solid core of players would make them look great. I think the 49ers front office is making all the right moves so far this off season. Your thoughts?"
Mike Sando: It's clear we need to break old habits when analyzing the 49ers. They were an easy team to mock when Jed York was publicly guaranteeing division titles with an 0-5 record, Mike Singletary was dropping trou as head coach, the team was changing offensive coordinators every year, Smith was floundering and the stadium situation remained a mess.
We should not underestimate this organization. York has led a successful push for a new stadium. He went against convention when hiring Trent Baalke as his general manager, with better-than-expected results (think NaVorro Bowman, Carlos Rogers, Donte Whitner, paying Ray McDonald instead of Aubrayo Franklin). The organization secured Jim Harbaugh as head coach when Harbaugh was the hottest and, it turns out, best candidate. Gideon Yu and Kunal Malik were also strategic additions.
Now, one week into the Manning circus, we find out the 49ers have made a very calculating move to position themselves for the quarterback's services. This strikes me as something the 49ers would not have seriously considered right after the season, when the bond between Smith and Harbaugh was strongest. This decision was easier to make a couple months into the offseason, when strategic thinking takes its firmest hold.
This is a bold move, and one an organization doesn't make without leadership at the ownership level. York presumably saw this as a rare opportunity to seize upon a championship window. Sticking with Smith would have been more comfortable. The 49ers might wind up going that route, anyway. They could have some damage control to do if that is the case. But nothing ventured, nothing gained. Randy Moss' addition was another move with the short term in mind.
Smith has shown he's adept at swallowing his pride. And in this case, we're talking about Peyton Manning, not some average quarterback. I'm reminded of Arizona defensive end Darnell Dockett's public support for Manning as Kevin Kolb's replacement on the Cardinals. Dockett said he would have no trouble with someone lobbying for the team to sign a new defensive end if Reggie White or Bruce Smith were the ones under consideration.
That is how I feel about teams pursuing Manning when they already have quarterbacks in place. Those teams' existing quarterbacks might not like it, but that is too bad for them. Owners, executives and coaches have a responsibility to act in the best interests of their organizations. Looking into Manning qualifies as that type of move.
Louie
03-18-2012, 07:41 AM
Alex Smith is visiting the dolphins today...
Here's him arriving in Fort Lauderdale:
http://campl.us/ifNO
The only emotion I can feel when seeing this is "sad"...
Only Peyton Manning to the 49ers will help me get over it...
aakjsf
03-18-2012, 10:21 AM
said early on sf would be the perfect fit for manning
sf would on paper be the favorites to win the super bowl
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