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Old 05-26-2005, 08:30 AM
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Talking Thurs: Todays horses

Rained just about all night so I'm sure the races are coming off the Turf at Belmont. Maybe at Pimlico too.
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BELMONT

1st 3-7

4th 1-2-3

7th 5-6-9
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ARLINGTON

5th 7-8

8th 1
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CHURCHILL

8th 2-3

10th 1-7-9
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HOLLYWOOD

5th 2-5

7th 1-4-6
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PIMLICO

6th 2-4

8th 3-5-7
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I think I've posted this before. The worse results I get is when they run on an "OFF" grass course.
When its OK they will call it "FIRM".
When its off they call it "SOFT".

"SOFT" is where I don't do well. In fact....thats where REAL BIG LONGSHOTS COME IN.

If you see it "SOFT" and you have a decent size field its time to go for it. BET ANY CRAZY BASTARD IN THE EXACTA'S AND TRIPLES.

You may catch something like the 1.7 million pick 4 in the derby.
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Old 05-26-2005, 08:34 AM
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I forgot Golden. My daughter is on my mind.

GOLDEN GATE

3RD 1-7

5TH 3-4

7TH 2-4
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Hello Zorro.

I will be playing again. We made money yesterday. You are soooo right about time consuming. I can't imagine sitting at the track the whole day waiting to see if the odds are right. It is hard enough doing that at home. As I said in your other thread, I had to go out of town last night. You probably should not bet blindly, but there is always that fear of missing the big one. Well my foolish betting paid off big thanks to your picks at woodbine. The 1 dollar exacta was almost 50 bucks. I had it 15 times baby!!!!!

Don't get so mad when we don't respond! Sometimes our connection isn't as fast as that screaming fast Web TV!

HAHAAHA

Lets get some more today!

THANKS!
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Old 05-26-2005, 11:14 AM
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Al, it is time consuming sitting watching boards all day, the hardest thing is not betting anything for sometimes an hour or more. Now when he does the form, take a friend, split the tracks and watch the boards and you both make money. It's alot of work and patience but it definitely pays off. With Z's picks lately I can't justify sitting at the OTB everyday, especially since I can't get there till 3 central which is when most of the races are already done. As I've said before, if the he does the entire form, drop whatever your doing and spend the day making money.

Zorro, good luck with the new grandchild, hopefully you'll have one by the end of the day.
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Old 05-26-2005, 11:32 AM
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Re: Hello Zorro.

[quote]Originally posted by BigAl
[b] Sometimes our connection isn't as fast as that screaming fast Web TV!



So help me, I laughed two minutes over that line.
I really don't know if this is just Web TV. Most people I know in Westchester have trouble and they have computers. My daughters computer is also slow as shit.

Many friends of mine have the same problem.

Another thing, when I told my son not to buy me a computer for Christmas because I will not use it I also felt nothing is gonna work from this house.

Speed? You buy a TV, bring it home, go from CBS to NBC, it takes 2 minutes to get a picture, bring it back to the store, the guy says, "Oh you want an instant picture when you change networks, 2 to 4 to 7, etc.......HELL WE CAN DO THAT BUT IT WILL COST YOU 50 BUCKS A MONTH.

Know what I would do? Tell him to take his TV set and shove it up his ass.

Why is a computer different?
You spend a few grand and the cock-suckers want money every month of your life life? Are they Con Ed or ATT...and......THIS IS JUST FOR THIS PIECE OF SHIT TO WORK THE WAY IT WAS SUPPOSE TO WORK WHEN YOU GAVE THEM A FEW GRAND FOR THE PRODUCT.

Am I wrong here?

I send you out a Steak dinner in my restaurant that costs 38 bucks....BUT NO FORK AND KNIFE.
IF YOU WANT A FORK AND KNIFE YOU HAVE TO PAY ME 2 BUCKS A MONTH FOR THE REST OF YOUR FUCKING LIFE.

Know why this didn't work with the TV 50 years ago but with the computer they steal your money????

BECAUSE THE PEOPLE OF TODAY ARE ASS-HOLES!!!!!!!!!

As each year goes bye the people become BIGGER ASSHOLES.

I give America no more than 30 years.
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Old 05-26-2005, 11:33 AM
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I just hope.

we never get to the point like the animals in the middle east.

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Old 05-26-2005, 11:42 AM
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Hey 67, I want to ask you something. Do you have a tax on horse prices at your OTB?

In NY, around 10 years ago, they started a tax. It comes right out of the horses price.

If a horse pays 10:00 at the track, at OTB you get 9:20

Do you believe that? Only in NY my friends.

20 to win means instead of 100 bucks you get 92 bucks.
8 dollars to your new partner, the goverment.
100 to win you lose 40 bucks.

That really is what has killed the tracks.
At one time the take-out was 4%. In NY its 18% and 33% on exotic bets.

The tax is killing the business. Thats why people have turned to casinos.
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Old 05-26-2005, 11:59 AM
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I don't think so, I've never noticed it before on win bets but I think on the ex and tris they do, maybe it's only on winners above a certain dollar amount.
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The JackAsses

Have taken Belmont off the turf for every race already!

I think Zorro is correct. I am betting every camel I come across. I was watching the races yesterday and my 11 year old can run faster than that!

There is still nothing funnier to me than to see a horse come in with no rider. I had the winner the other day with no rider, that wasn't real funny. Some claim that horses are very inteligent? Ya right. Those dummies don't even know there is no one still riding. If one of those nasty mules breaks loose, they just run like the wind in every direction. I think they are dumb, and the only thing they know is a bag of oats if they run around in circles!
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No tax on Internet.

Even one more reason to bet online Zorro. And the price for a complete system is under 700 bucks these days. They are very fast, even the cheap ones. Why would I lye?
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Old 05-26-2005, 12:17 PM
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Big Al already posted it...Off the Turf at Belmont.

20,000 scratches.

1st 7
4th 1
7th 6-9

Makes no difference anyway I don't bet them off the Turf.
Those numbers are for "ON" the turf.

We now have some great fields of 3 horses. The longshot in the race is 8-5

Tell me about doing this system. A lot of time, work, and having your balls busted.
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Old 05-26-2005, 12:56 PM
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Zorro,

Why is it so much harder to pass the dirt races?
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Rat Bastard horse # 2 at Pimlico came in second.

Lost at the wire.

It came off the turf and I didn't bet it. When the sucker looked like he was going to win, I almost shit!
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Rat Bastard horse # 2 at Pimlico came in second.

Lost at the wire.

It came off the turf and I didn't bet it. When the sucker looked like he was going to win, I almost shit!

Another reason why this is very tough to take. In the past horses I have "off" the turf have won at a price.
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Zorro,

Why is it so much harder to pass the dirt races?

Believe it or not the secret to beating the horses is in that question.
On my system part 1 is based on only one word...CLASS!!!!

Part 2 is FRACTIONS.

The fractions in a dirt race are the whole ballgame with the exception of a mile and a half race. The Belmont is a 1 1/2.
This is not so on the grass. The fractions are not even close to being as important.

This is how I am doing these turf races with an extremely abbreviated data chart.
I could NEVER do this on a dirt race.
There, on dirt, I MUST HAVE THE RACING FORM THAT SHOWS ME ALL HIS RACES.....and what he did at each point of call.
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Big AL, I hate to tell you this but they really fucked us over with that 2 horse at Pimlico.
He was around 8-1 I believe on the program.
HE WAS ALL SET TO GO FOR IT TODAY ON THE TURF.

Trainer had him alive and ready. Thats why he ran anyway on the dirt.
Went off at 13:80

He would have been at least 10-1 on Turf....AND WE WOULD HAVE WON THAT FUCKING RACE.

Ain't shit you can do about it. A very tough break.

OK, I will say if the Turf was "soft" maybe we don't win.
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These miserable Donkeys don't want to run for us!

2nd place again.

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