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    Angry Why baseball sucks-Marlins are winning.

    Hey, I want the best bet in 4 weeks, The Marlins today.

    Give me the Marlins 600 times.
    OK Zorro you're laying 5,700 to get 3,000.

    WHAT!!!!!!!!
    Get the fuck out of here. Shove that bet up your ass.

    Hey Z.....thats it....but I'll let you have the Marlins and you give me runs.
    Why give you runs...are they playing a collegeteam today?


    You mean....I can win the game......AND STILL FUCKING LOSE BECAUSE I GAVE YOU RUNS???

    Thats it Z man.

    GOOD...TAKE THE GAME....TAKE BASEBALL...AND SHOVE IT UP YOUR ASS.

    I said today on POD that I would put a 600 timer on the Marlins today if they were pick-em.

    BUT....if you give 5,700 to get 3,000 YOU ARE THE DUMBEST BASTARD ON THIS PLANET.

    With the figures I do this was a best bet of the month game. Baseball is the only game that doesn't allow best bets of the month unless you're a fucking idiot to lay that crazy line.


    Hey, maybe the Mets will come back and beat them.....LETS GO METS.....

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    RRRRRun line zorro, run line.
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    Angry

    Marlins won.

    I'm winning the Tampa game and I don't give a shit.
    The game I wanted was the Marlins.

    Hey C Man...if you had the "over" on the Yankee game yesterday they should pay you TRIPLE!

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    haha nope didn't have that one Z. I'm not a big fan of taking overs in baseball but after today I think I should be! Almost every under I took will be going over.
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    Re: Why baseball sucks-Marlins are winning.

    Zorro, the better team has to have some kind of edge otherwise everyone would just bet the Marlins today and Vegas would go out of business. It's the same thing in football. When the Patriots are playing the Lions, don't you think its fair that you have to lay some points when you bet the Pats. If you want the patriots straight up, you have to lay more and win less. That is sports betting. I don't understand what you are bitching about. If you don't like laying extra to win less, bet underdogs.
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    Re: Why baseball sucks-Marlins are winning.

    Originally posted by ZORRO
    I said today on POD that I would put a 600 timer on the Marlins today if they were pick-em.

    BUT....if you give 5,700 to get 3,000 YOU ARE THE DUMBEST BASTARD ON THIS PLANET.
    If you thought that Glavine at Beckett would be a pickem' YOU ARE THE DUMBEST BASTARD ON THIS PLANET.
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    You need to play the run line zorro. I've read your posts about how you think the run line is a "sucker bet" but have you seen the math on it??

    Why do people pick dogs?? Because they pay out above +100 meaning you'd win more than your risking, and then over time if you hit 50% of your bets (or even less) you'll end up ahead of the game.

    The run line isn't even that different. Most runlines pay out over +100 just like a dog.

    Roughly 30% of games end up in one run games, favorites win about 66% of the time, so out of the 30% of those games 20% of total games played are won by the favorite by one run (not 100% accurate percentages but a good rough estimate. 20% means 1 out of 5.

    So if the favorite wins 5 games and you bet the run line on those 5 games you should on average lose only once on the RL because the favorite only won by 1 run.


    So if you're still following up to this point by taking the run line on a favorite you're getting the same payout as you would by selecting a dog (roughly) but you can still pick the favorite to win and you're only risking that the favorite doesn't win by 1. If you pick the favorite and the dog wins then it wouldn't have mattered if you had picked the favorite on the RL or the ML, but if the favorite wins the game the odds are in your favor that they'll cover the run line 80% of the time. This would have applied to the marlins today
    Last edited by CanadianGuy; 05-29-2005 at 06:20 PM.
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    I am not saying that you are a liar but there is no way the the favorite will cover a run line 80% of the time.

    Every single bet you make on every single sport is computerized to come to a 50-50 result.

    These people (the house) always win.

    Lets take NY. They put out a line...the betting is one million on both sides...great....they keep the Vig of 100,000.

    One team has 200 grand too much even though they moved the line. They "SELL" the 200 grand to another book.

    Thats how it works on every sport, everywhere, every day and forever.

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    Re: Re: Why baseball sucks-Marlins are winning.

    Originally posted by Louie
    If you thought that Glavine at Beckett would be a pickem' YOU ARE THE DUMBEST BASTARD ON THIS PLANET.


    I'm able to analyze people even on a web site.
    You have a major problem with comprehension.
    Best and curious thing about that is you don't know it.

    I find this is rampant on web sites and the people who run them.
    At first I believed it to be a NY thing. You know, if you're not from NY you're not sharp, you don't get it.

    I find that these managers of web sites don't get......well...really don't get anything at all.

    Humor....they never heard of it.
    Sarcasm...they never heard of it.

    Liberals.....red hot lib scumbags each and every one of them.

    You just said that I should not expect to see a PICK-EM game today at the Marlins.
    Who the fuck do you think you're talking to? A moron?

    The fact that you would make that statement to me shows how fucking stupid you are.

    Yet....so dumb...you don't get it.

    As I said...my IQ is WAY up there. What is yours? 62?

    Also...I own many restaurants in NY. One call....is all it would take.....one call.....if I don't like somebody.....and my friend...I DON'T LIKE YOU.

    Louie.....CAN'T BE ITALIAN....BET ON THAT!

    CALL YOURSELF LOUIS.

    Oh....most people think that NOBODY CAN FIND OUT WHO THEY ARE on a web site.

    Think thats true? Test me. Ask me to trace anybody on this site, and I will have the data in 48 hours.

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    I'm not saying they cover the RL 80% of the time all the time, I"m saying when they win the game they cover the RL 80% of the time.


    If you need more proof look at todays games. Out of all the games today 9 favorites won, of those 9 favorites 7 covered the run line and 2 did not. 2/9 = 22% did not cover the runline, 78% of favorites that won did cover. Trust me, I've been keeping track of it and its a consistent 80/20 number

    It's the only way to bet the favorite and stay ahead of the book instead of just taking a favorite at say -150 ML or worse.
    The only sure thing is that there is no sure thing.

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    Re: Re: Re: Why baseball sucks-Marlins are winning.

    Originally posted by ZORRO

    Who the fuck do you think you're talking to? A moron?

    The fact that you would make that statement to me shows how fucking stupid you are.

    Yet....so dumb...you don't get it.

    As I said...my IQ is WAY up there. What is yours? 62?

    Also...I own many restaurants in NY. One call....is all it would take.....one call.....if I don't like somebody.....and my friend...I DON'T LIKE YOU.

    Louie.....CAN'T BE ITALIAN....BET ON THAT!

    CALL YOURSELF LOUIS.

    Oh....most people think that NOBODY CAN FIND OUT WHO THEY ARE on a web site.

    Think thats true? Test me. Ask me to trace anybody on this site, and I will have the data in 48 hours.
    Zorro,

    You need to calm yourself to level "zorro." You are not that tuff. Don't act as such. You know your post was well out of line and you were way off the mark. Keep talking trash. It gets you nowhere. When you have something constructive to say, go ahead and say it. Otherwise, shut your big fat mouth.

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    nice louie...zorro goes on these rants like once a week they become so annoying, he acts as if he is the god of all things especially sports knowledge, i love how he claims that bball is not a good sport to bet because he is getting his ass kicked in it

    now just time till he will try and rail on me for saying something bad about him...tick tock tick tock
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    Also...I own many restaurants in NY. One call....is all it would take.....one call.....if I don't like somebody.....and my friend...I DON'T LIKE YOU.
    "One call thats all"....we got a lawyer down south here that runs his ads with that quote, although you sound like a total jackass by saying something like that

    wuhoo im threatened i dont like you, im calling someone....man down south we handle things like gentlemen, we dont run off to some ole tough mafia type figures
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